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Re: The Temptress

#81 Post by robertXX »

I tried the millenium Brian , no luck .

re another 175 UnfortunaTELY NO I DON'T , I DO HAVE A EMMEGAS FCS-133 ? oops caps .
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Re: The Temptress

#82 Post by CNG »

Played this game - matching AEB175 Leonardo to PC. I think Gilbert knows more thus I'm ready to stand corrected, but here's what I have:

1) It's a AEB box, but your box could be badged and loaded as:

AEB
Bigas
PEGASO
OMVL

AEB made these in several flavours, many are branded OMVL. Thus require corresponding software. If you've say the OMVL 'flashed' variant, your AEB software won't fly. In my case, OMVL software worked. Software must match ECU.

2) I have USB, so had to get a Polish USB lead to get things to fly. Requires a specific lead-chipset I think?
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#83 Post by Brian_H »

robertXX wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:54 pm I tried the millenium Brian , no luck .

re another 175 UnfortunaTELY NO I DON'T , I DO HAVE A EMMEGAS FCS-133 ? oops caps .
Try the Pegaso (Bigas) software if you haven't already? https://tinleytech.co.uk/download/5064/

I think those are the common 3 ones (We think there might be a Landi badged version as well, but only person who seems to have one of those is Hairyloon) Gillbertd will know as CNG has said.

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#84 Post by CNG »

Landi LCS PLUS??? I think?

There's a LovEco 4EU variant too. And yes... Emmegas FCS-223

I used a CCY plug.

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#85 Post by Brian_H »

CNG wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:08 pm Landi LCS PLUS??? I think?

There's a LovEco 4EU variant too. And yes... Emmegas FCS-223

I used a CCY plug.
Possbily yes. I don't think Hairyloon got his working as yet due to a combination of lead and software issues. Though I'd think its unlikely anyone would flash that onto it, more likely its one of the more common ecus I'd expect?

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#86 Post by LPGC »

Very rare to have AEB175 innards / firmware that doesn't match the label, I've only seen that a couple of times and expect an installer swapped the entire innards rather than anyone flashing them with different firmware.

Did you have the switch connected when trying to connect with software?

Known a few broken ones try to connect but connection failed. Also when they're old they can fail in a way that sees them forget all settings when disconnected from the battery.
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#87 Post by Gilbertd »

Landi is different, as is LovEco (horrible beast, had one on my RR Classic originally). AEB 175 can be, AEB Leonardo, OMVL Millennium, Bigas Pegaso, Romano 175 or Zavoli Regal. There is a Landi version but I've no idea what software you need for that. If you get the download box it is connecting so it should then open up as long as both power leads are live and it can find something to download. Worst case, I've got a Leo with a dead switching relay so it won't switch but the software will connect. I could always bung that in the post so you can confirm the lead and software is working. I'll also have a look at what versions of the Leo and Millennium software I'm running.
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#88 Post by robertXX »

LPGC wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:37 pm Very rare to have AEB175 innards / firmware that doesn't match the label, I've only seen that a couple of times and expect an installer swapped the entire innards rather than anyone flashing them with different firmware.

Did you have the switch connected when trying to connect with software?

Known a few broken ones try to connect but connection failed. Also when they're old they can fail in a way that sees them forget all settings when disconnected from the battery.
thats encouraging thank you simon , this definately has the leonardo sticker . no i did not have anything connected , apart from the solid red and red and back to pos and black to neg on the battery , should i wire in the switch ?
"The Temptress" thread..... https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/215234/temptress
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#89 Post by robertXX »

Gilbertd wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:38 pm Landi is different, as is LovEco (horrible beast, had one on my RR Classic originally). AEB 175 can be, AEB Leonardo, OMVL Millennium, Bigas Pegaso, Romano 175 or Zavoli Regal. There is a Landi version but I've no idea what software you need for that. If you get the download box it is connecting so it should then open up as long as both power leads are live and it can find something to download. Worst case, I've got a Leo with a dead switching relay so it won't switch but the software will connect. I could always bung that in the post so you can confirm the lead and software is working. I'll also have a look at what versions of the Leo and Millennium software I'm running.
Yes it definitely behaves differently when connected to the box as opposed to trying the software on its own , the download box appears for about 3 seconds then is overlaid with the no connection box .

that's a very kind offer thank you Gilbert , i will take you up on that if by the weekend i have not succeeded , shame you're not closer !
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#90 Post by Brian_H »

robertXX wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:00 pm
LPGC wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:37 pm Very rare to have AEB175 innards / firmware that doesn't match the label, I've only seen that a couple of times and expect an installer swapped the entire innards rather than anyone flashing them with different firmware.

Did you have the switch connected when trying to connect with software?

Known a few broken ones try to connect but connection failed. Also when they're old they can fail in a way that sees them forget all settings when disconnected from the battery.
thats encouraging thank you simon , this definately has the leonardo sticker . no i did not have anything connected , apart from the solid red and red and back to pos and black to neg on the battery , should i wire in the switch ?
Newer stuff generally (not always though - some oddball systems use the switch connector for the pc connection lead) needs the switch connected to behave properly. Definitely connect it up before anything else to rule it out.

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#91 Post by Gilbertd »

Just tried my spare Leo. Connected Red and Red/Black to the car battery and the black to -ve. This was with the switch hanging on the loom but nothing else. Opened the software, got the ECU Download box and the software then opened and I could read all the parameters. Shut the software down, unplugged the switch and tried again, same thing, connected perfectly. So it still connects as long as both supplies are live but needs nothing else on the loom, so no switch, stepper, solenoids, tank level gauge, nowt other than a bundle of tangled wires.

This was using a ridiculously geriatric Panasonic Toughbook with a 800MHz Celeron processor and naff all memory running Windows 2000 but with a proper serial port set as Com 1. Checked the port settings and found the baud rate set at 4800 (although I have a feeling that had to be changed to run the software for the P38 air suspension, but worth a try), 8 data bits, parity None, stop bits 1, and Flow control None. Under the advanced tab, Use FIFO ticked and both Rx and Tx buffers set at High (14).
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Re: The Temptress

#92 Post by robertXX »

ok brilliant i will try those settings , maybe my baud is toO fast .
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Re: The Temptress

#93 Post by robertXX »

Orl Roighty .update from the front.


tried new port setting no luck , tried bigas ,millenium (hand and shrimp), no luck , and also leonardo ,no luck .

all on the w98 pc with the serial port .


with all i get this screen at first ..

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then almost immediately ...

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sorry about the lack of focus .




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#94 Post by Brian_H »

That would seem to point towards an issue with your lead given the info above? Have you used it on a known working ecu? if not, then the next step would seem like trying it with Richard's ECU might be a good troubleshooting step?

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#95 Post by Gilbertd »

You should get the download box and a coloured bar runs across from left to right, then the software opens. I'm with Brian on that, it looks like a problem with the lead although it is trying to connect. Sure you've got the Tx and Rx leads the right way round?
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Re: The Temptress

#96 Post by robertXX »

Will something burst into flames if i swap them ?
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#97 Post by Brian_H »

The only one that might cause a problem is the +12v one if its wrong

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#98 Post by Gilbertd »

12V comes from the Leo to power the MAX232 in the interface so that one is easy enough to identify, same goes for the ground. That only leaves 2 that could be wrong.
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Re: The Temptress

#99 Post by robertXX »

Coolio , i'll swap em and see what happens .:)
"The Temptress" thread..... https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/215234/temptress
'Medusa" thread .....https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/threads/medusa.206057/

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Re: The Temptress

#100 Post by robertXX »

no luck with the swap , however .. i decided to get the back off , and this big resistor does not look very well ,


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its so burnt i cannot tell what its value was !


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'Medusa" thread .....https://www.rodsnsods.co.uk/threads/medusa.206057/

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